Γιάννης Φετφατζίδης

[toro]

Εφόσον δεν έχουμε δυνατότητα να κάνουμε άλλες μεταγραφές, καταλήγουμε στο ότι έχουμε για τα άκρα της επίθεσης μονο 3 παίκτες - Φέτφα, Βλαχοδήμος, Αμπντούν. Όσο και αν ο Βλαχοδήμος δε μας πείθει ή ο Φέτφα μένει στην γκρίνια πρέπει να τους δούμε κάποια στιγμή να παίζουν. Μέχρι το Γενάρη σε αυτό θα έχουμε καταλήξει, οπότε όσο πιο γρήγορα τόσο το καλύτερο..

[BrazHlias]

Εφόσον δεν έχουμε δυνατότητα να κάνουμε άλλες μεταγραφές, καταλήγουμε στο ότι έχουμε για τα άκρα της επίθεσης μονο 3 παίκτες - Φέτφα, Βλαχοδήμος, Αμπντούν. Όσο και αν ο Βλαχοδήμος δε μας πείθει ή ο Φέτφα μένει στην γκρίνια πρέπει να τους δούμε κάποια στιγμή να παίζουν. Μέχρι το Γενάρη σε αυτό θα έχουμε καταλήξει, οπότε όσο πιο γρήγορα τόσο το καλύτερο..

τελικα καταληξαμε οτι ειναι ακραιος και οχι για τον αξονα?

δεν ξερω περιεργη περιπτωση ο φετφα

[ΜΟΥΡΑΤΗΣ]

τον ετοιμαζει λεει να τον βαλει την κυριακη, γνωμη μου πως ετσι δουλεια δεν γινετε. με τις συνεχεις αλλαγες δεν θα δεσει ποτε η ομαδα.

δεν λεω να μην παιξει, το αντιθετο, λεω να παιξει και ανεξαρτητα απο την αποδοση του να μην βγει απο την εντεκαδα, μπας και παρει τα πανω του

Hλία δεν νομίζω οτι του λείπουν τα ματσ, μυαλό του λείπει και δύναμη , και τα δύο διορθώνονται αρκεί να υπαρχει θέληση.Αλλά πως να έχεις θέληση όταν ο εμπειρος Τζιμπουρ , στην φάση του 92 ζητά να αλλάξει τους φυσικούς νόμους?

[BrazHlias]

Hλία δεν νομίζω οτι του λείπουν τα ματσ, μυαλό του λείπει και δύναμη , και τα δύο διορθώνονται αρκεί να υπαρχει θέληση.Αλλά πως να έχεις θέληση όταν ο εμπειρος Τζιμπουρ , στην φάση του 92 ζητά να αλλάξει τους φυσικούς νόμους?

ματς εχει παρει αρκετα και συμφωνω πως ματια δεν εχει βγαλει.

λεω οτι ισως βαλει μυαλο στο παιχνιδι του αν αρχιζει να παιζει βασικος σε μια σειρα απο ματς. το να τον βαλεις αυριο και απο μεθαυριο να μην τον ξαναβαλεις δεν θα ειναι κατι διαφορετικο απο αυτο που εκανε ο βαλβερδε, αρα θα εχει το ιδιο αποτελεσμα. εννοω πως η ιδια συνταγη το ιδιο φαϊ θα σου δινει παντα.

εχω μια αισθηση οτι παιζοντας συνεχεια θα βελτιωσει το παιχνιδι του διοτι θα αντιληφθει πως μετα απο 1,2,3 ματς μια τριπλα ανα ματς δεν ειναι αρκετα, αρα θα πρεπει να αλλαξει τροπο σκεψης. ισως φαει και λιγο γιουχα καποια στιγμη και αν αντεξει να την ξεπερασει θα δυναμωσει ψυχολογικα, αν οχι θα γινει κατανοητο πως δεν κανει. αλλα τουλαχιστον θα ξεκαθαρισει πλεον η κατασταση, πρεπει να δουμε πλεον αν ο φετφα κανει ή οχι.

[Reaper]

Super Liga for Olympiacos:

• Abdoun (26 years old): 4011 minutes played!
• Assists: 19
• Goals: 5
• 1 assist every 211 minutes.
• 1 goal every 802 minutes.

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• Fetwa (21 years old): 2001 minutes played.
• Assists: 10
• Goals: 5
• 1 assist every 200 minutes.
• 1 goal every 400 minutes.

In any other country in the world, fetwa would have done enough to play every game for Olympiakocos instead of Abdoun/ In Greece and Olympiacos, we adore Modesto, zewlakow, Contreras, Dani!!! and other old players. The treatment and lies about kyriakos Papadoupoulos and Giannis Fetfazidis are a disgrace and show how backwards Greece is.

[ΜΟΥΡΑΤΗΣ]

You have to know , statistics are not true data, therefore your conclusion , perhaps is wrong.

[Reaper]

For a pure Attacking Midfielder/ winger, assists and goals are the only data you need. I mean, Goals and Assists win leagues with attacking players. With defensive players it is tackles and km run. That is why most successful clubs pay statisticians to see who is doing what. Who is creating the goals, whose passes are the most accurate - who gives the ball away and who makes the most errors.

Perhaps the only data that is useful for an attacking midfield is assists and goals - I mean it is logical the winger with the most Goals/assists should start no? Seeing that fetwa has destroyed Abdoun in those stats, maybe we need something else for those who still have doubts? I mean Abdoun must be doing something better than fetwa to get 2000 minutes more than him at olympiacos..right? He is not scoring or assisting more than Fetwa.... maybe we need to go on something else? Pass completion and tackles is secondary for a winger, but we have this too! Lets see if it helps Abdoun?

For example, last season:

• Fetwa: 1002 minutes played.
• 23 successful tackles/steals from the opposition.
• 1 successful tackle/steal every 43 minutes.

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• Abdoun: 1496 minutes played.
• 32 successful tackles/steals from the opposition.
• 1 successful tackle/steal every 45 minutes.

However, the most shocking????
Same season (2011-2012)

• Fetwa Errors (giving the ball to the other team): 59
• 1 error every 17 minutes.

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• Abdoun Errors (giving the ball to the other team): 137
• 1 error every 10 minutes.

It is obvious through statistics and just watching the games as a human, Fetwa is more effective than Abdoun. What is not obvious is why many Greeks have decided to create a mythology that Fetfwa is not picked because he is 'lazy' in training because they cannot invent another reason why he doesn't play. I mean Valverde won the Greek league, not because Olympiakos spent €20 million more than anyone else in Greece, they won the Super league because valverde was a God!

If you want to know the reason Fetwa didn't play as he should the last few years, you need to look at his agent. Agents make agreements all over the world with managers to secure their player's playing time. As many managers admit, ''the phone always rings after practice and 99% of the time it is player's agent!''

• Fetwa agent:
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

• Abdoun agent:
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

• And the best agent? the agent that helps you walk into the Greek National Team? Fortounis' agent! (Same agent as K. Paps, Basinas, Lymbe, Gekas, Tziolis, Tzavellas, Xaristeas, Kyrgiakos, pliatsikas....)
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

[iakov7]

Εδω που φτασαμε να μην εχουμε εξτρεμ τουλαχιστον ας παρουν ευκαιριες ο Φετφα και ο Βλαχοδημος. Αλλωστε δεν εχουμε επιλογη.

[redHEART7]

reaper where are u from?your team?u are right about fetfa, young players with his talent should play continuous games in order to develop their skills,here in greece mistakes from young players are expensive and forbidden,thats why many greek talents are lost.we should trust them more.for example ernesto insisted to use abdoun even with his mistakes because he believed him more than fetfa,game after game abdoun did better and better.but if in olympiacos they believe in fetfa they should do the same or otherwise they should let the kid go wherever he wants

[dimace]

reaper where are u from?your team?u are right about fetfa, young players with his talent should play continuous games in order to develop their skills,here in greece mistakes from young players are expensive and forbidden,thats why many greek talents are lost.we should trust them more.for example ernesto insisted to use abdoun even with his mistakes because he believed him more than fetfa,game after game abdoun did better and better.but if in olympiacos they believe in fetfa they should do the same or otherwise they should let the kid go wherever he wants

Ρε, μη μου το χαλάτε εσύ και ο καινούργιος! Γερμανικά είπαμε να γράφουμε εδώ μέσα
και όχι Εγγλέζικα. Φον Ζάκη, Τιμώρησε και τους δύο!

[VALVERDES_7]

Ρε, μη μου το χαλάτε εσύ και ο καινούργιος! Γερμανικά είπαμε να γράφουμε εδώ μέσα
και όχι Εγγλέζικα. Φον Ζάκη, Τιμώρησε και τους δύο!

Τι συμβαίνει εδώ πέρα?Εχουμε αντιφρονούντες?

[redHEART7]

μα τι γινετε?γτ γερμανικα?ο φετφα τι φταιει??

[dimace]

Τι συμβαίνει εδώ πέρα?Εχουμε αντιφρονούντες?

Έτσι φαίνεται... Που είναι η σιδηρά γερμανική πειθαρχία, κύριε Έπαρχε?
Να μην επαναληφθεί παρακαλώ!

[redHEART7]

θα τον αγορασουν οι γερμανοι για να ξεχρεωσει η ελλαδα?

[VALVERDES_7]

Έτσι φαίνεται... Που είναι η σιδηρά γερμανική πειθαρχία, κύριε Έπαρχε?
Να μην επαναληφθεί παρακαλώ!

Nα μου διαβιβάσετε την βαθύτατη λύπη μου προς τον θηλυκό Φύρερ. Δεν θα επαναληφθεί. Η επαρχία της Ελλάδας θα χορεύει καθημερινώς σε Γερμανικούς ρυθμούς!

Με ιδιαίτερο σεβασμό προς την Αυτού Εξοχότητης,

Έπαρχος Φον Ζάκης

[Reaper]

reaper where are u from?your team?u are right about fetfa, young players with his talent should play continuous games in order to develop their skills,here in greece mistakes from young players are expensive and forbidden,thats why many greek talents are lost.we should trust them more.for example ernesto insisted to use abdoun even with his mistakes because he believed him more than fetfa,game after game abdoun did better and better.but if in olympiacos they believe in fetfa they should do the same or otherwise they should let the kid go wherever he wants

I am from london and have English Greek and Spanish descent. I support Olympiacos and have been to many games, mostly in Europa and CL competitions. I have watched Olympiakos - non-stop in the Super Liga on TV the last 4 years. I have watched many talents needlessly ruined and I have also seen idiot olympiacos fans make excuses for the disgusting culture at Olympiacos and in greece generally concerning youth talents.

I am upset because players of fetfatzidis ability are rare and don't come around very often. He was promoted by Zico and has been spolied and degraded by Valverde and Santos. Before Euro 2012 Valverde had meetings with Santos about all the Olympiakos players.. It is no surprise we never saw fetfatzidis in Euro 2012.

What I find the most revolting however is the lack of football knowledge by olympicos fans. The only fans who know less about football in general is Real Madrid fans. Olympiakos outspends the rest of Greece bringing in the best players. Olympiacos are favorites every year because we have the best team in Greece, not because the manager is a genius. Even when olympiacos had won a league early, we would still not see the youth get chances! Even at 3-0 Valverde refused to make substitutions! Why? Remember Dudu? Valverde played him every minute of every game one season. After that he was destroyed as a player and never fully recovered from his injuries. This is stupidity. If Kyriakos Papadopoulos stayed in Greece and been a slave to bench behind zewlakow, he would now be on loan at Atromitos! Unless fetwa leaves Greece, he will be finished and he almost is. Also his best position which Valverde also saw, was directly behind a striker, however, at olympiacos this position is owned by someone with big privilege...Fuster...

[nbqgr]

For a pure Attacking Midfielder/ winger, assists and goals are the only data you need. I mean, Goals and Assists win leagues with attacking players. With defensive players it is tackles and km run. That is why most successful clubs pay statisticians to see who is doing what. Who is creating the goals, whose passes are the most accurate - who gives the ball away and who makes the most errors.

Perhaps the only data that is useful for an attacking midfield is assists and goals - I mean it is logical the winger with the most Goals/assists should start no? Seeing that fetwa has destroyed Abdoun in those stats, maybe we need something else for those who still have doubts? I mean Abdoun must be doing something better than fetwa to get 2000 minutes more than him at olympiacos..right? He is not scoring or assisting more than Fetwa.... maybe we need to go on something else? Pass completion and tackles is secondary for a winger, but we have this too! Lets see if it helps Abdoun?

For example, last season:

• Fetwa: 1002 minutes played.
• 23 successful tackles/steals from the opposition.
• 1 successful tackle/steal every 43 minutes.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

• Abdoun: 1496 minutes played.
• 32 successful tackles/steals from the opposition.
• 1 successful tackle/steal every 45 minutes.

However, the most shocking????
Same season (2011-2012)

• Fetwa Errors (giving the ball to the other team): 59
• 1 error every 17 minutes.

--------------------------------------------

• Abdoun Errors (giving the ball to the other team): 137
• 1 error every 10 minutes.

It is obvious through statistics and just watching the games as a human, Fetwa is more effective than Abdoun. What is not obvious is why many Greeks have decided to create a mythology that Fetfwa is not picked because he is 'lazy' in training because they cannot invent another reason why he doesn't play. I mean Valverde won the Greek league, not because Olympiakos spent 20 million more than anyone else in Greece, they won the Super league because valverde was a God!

If you want to know the reason Fetwa didn't play as he should the last few years, you need to look at his agent. Agents make agreements all over the world with managers to secure their player's playing time. As many managers admit, ''the phone always rings after practice and 99% of the time it is player's agent!''

• Fetwa agent:
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

• Abdoun agent:
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

• And the best agent? the agent that helps you walk into the Greek National Team? Fortounis' agent! (Same agent as K. Paps, Basinas, Lymbe, Gekas, Tziolis, Tzavellas, Xaristeas, Kyrgiakos, pliatsikas....)
• [Μόνο εγγεγραμμένοι χρήστες μπορούν να δουν τα links. ]

Really interesting!!

Mitroglou too is a lazy asshole

[sapere aude]

Ο φέτφα ρε γμτ πως προέκυψε δλδ τώρα στο προσκήνιο ??

Από κει που δεν μπορούσε , δεν χώραγε ...κτλ,κτλ , ξαφνικά θα πάρει θέση βασικού , γιατί ??

Γιατί δεν έπαιξαν καλά οι άλλοι με τη Σάλκε ?

Και άμα δεν πάει καλά και αυτός τι θα κάνουμε μετά θα κατεβάζουμε κόσμο από την 7 να δοκιμάζει ...

Δεν τα πολυκαταλαβαίνω αυτά ...είτε τον πιστεύεις ένα παίχτη και τον έχεις μαζί σου στην αποστολή εξ αρχής και τον στηρίζεις ή τον στέλνεις στο διάολο . Δεν τον στέλνεις στο διάολο και ξαφνικά τον βγάζεις από το πηγάδι να βγάλει τα κάστανα .

Anyway , κοντός ψαλμός αλληλούια , έρχεται η Κυριακή !!

[Paneas]

Θέλω πραγματικά μέσα απ' την καρδιά μου να παίξει σε όλα τα επόμενα παιχνίδια βασικός, μπας και σταματήσει το πρήξιμο γιατί μας έχουν γίνει ζέππελιν...

[iakov7]

Νομιζω αυτη πρεπει να ειναι και η τελευταια του χρονια. Να παρει ευκαιριες λοιπον και αν τωρα που η ομαδα εχει μεινει χωρις εξτρεμ δεν καταφερει να καθιερωθει να παει στο καλο.